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Can I Waist Train in That Corset?

Contrary to popular belief, waist training is not synonymous with tightlacing. One can tightlace on an occasional basis (for special events, or just for fun) while waist training is the process of wearing a corset on a daily or nearly daily basis for a specific goal – for instance, the ability to close a certain size corset, to achieve a specific silhouette, or to modify your natural waist (semi) permanently. (Many people who wear a corset on a regular/ daily basis for other reasons (such as back pain relief or prevention of anxiety) often “accidentally” waist train – because the body responds to consistent pressure, even light pressure over a long period of time, they may find that they need to size down to maintain the same pressure on their torso.)

Many people have their own requirements as to what a waist training corset should comprise of, so please take this information with a grain of salt. Note that this list is my opinion – and where applicable, I will include notes and disclaimers made by the corset maker/ company. Also note that overbust corsets are not mentioned here because most people prefer to train in underbust corsets. Overbust corsets may present some fitting/ mobility issues that underbusts don’t – although it’s not impossible to train using an overbust.

My requirements is that a waist training corset:

  • has strong stitching to withstand the rigors of daily wear without tearing of the seams (preferably reinforced with a waist tape)
  • contains sufficient steel boning that do not warp or break, thereby preventing extreme/ uncomfortable wrinkling at the waist
  • resists warping or collapsing over time
  • contains sturdy, fair quality grommets that don’t pop out under stress
  • preferably comes with a guarantee or statement by the vendor or corsetiere
  • has appropriate curves for the wearer – **while curvy corsets are more comfortable for me, the curve of a corset may not reflect its quality. Please note that some corsets are more compatible with different body shapes than others. Choose a corset that will best fit your body, not necessarily the curviest corset on the market. If you would like to compare proportions of different corsets and see which one will fit you best, see my Corset Dimensions Directory.**

Should I avoid a brand completely if their corset is not suited for waist training?

You can still purchase and wear any corset you like! Just because a corset is not recommended for waist training doesn’t mean that it’s not a good quality corset. For most of the brands shown below, I have been able to tightlace in them for 8 hours (if the proportions of the corset allow me to do so) although not every day. Just know that if you choose to train in non-training corsets, some may last longer than others, and some companies have better service/ policies than others. So in some cases a “no” is not definitive – more like a “proceed at your own risk.”

** Check back later as changes are currently being made to their construction**

Is waist training recommended using this OTR Corset?
Brand/style Waist Training Friendly? Guarantee/ Policies/ Customer Service Construction concerns? Curviness?
Axfords C242 Corset No (train at own risk) 60-day exchange/return on non-custom items Single bones/ no waist tape reported. Moderate
Burleska Athena underbust No 21-day return/exchange Plastic bones/ partial waist tape reported. ** Check back later as changes are currently being made to their construction** Mild
Corset Story/ Corsets-UK (etc) No 30-day exchange/return Weak/ popped grommets reported, single bones/partial waist tape in some styles.
Questionable materials reported.
Very mild
Isabella Corsetry (Immediate Line) Yes 10-day exchange/return of non-custom items
Long wait times and unreliable customer service reported.
 Some variability in curviness of corsets reported.
Reports of the waistline stretching at least an inch over time (especially satin corsets).
Very curvy
Leatherotics No 7-day exchange/return (20-day for international) for non-custom items only.
Unreliable customer service.
Weak/ popped grommets reported, single bones/partial waist tape in some styles. Mild
Meschantes No (train at own risk) 14-day exchange for unworn non-custom items; 21-day repair window for custom items.
Unreliable customer service.
Plastic reported in closed-front trainers (though not in those with a busk). Moderate (standard size waist trainer)
Ms Martha’s Corset Shoppe No (train at own risk) 5-day exchange/store credit on non-custom items.
Ms Martha states that although the silk collection is strong, her corsets are not guaranteed for waist training.
Single bones/ no waist tape reported. Moderate (geometric cincher)
Orchard Corset CS-201 Yes for cotton, no for mesh 30-day exchange/return.
1-year guarantee has been revoked as of 2014.
Responsive customer service.
Popped steel bones reported. Opt for all-cotton fashion fabric; stronger structurally. Mesh corsets wear down quickly. Moderate
Orchard Corset CS-301 No (train at own risk) 30-day exchange/return.
1-year guarantee has been revoked as of 2014.
Responsive customer service.
10 bones/ partial waist tape reported. Moderate. Length may promote tummy pooch/muffin top.
Orchard Corset CS-345 Perhaps 30-day exchange/return.
1-year guarantee has been revoked as of 2014.
Responsive customer service.
Single boned, partial waist tape reported. Opt for all-cotton fashion fabric; stronger structurally. Mild
Orchard Corset CS-411 Yes for cotton, no for mesh 30-day exchange/return.
1-year guarantee has been revoked as of 2014.
Responsive customer service.
Popped steel bones reported. Opt for all-cotton fashion fabric; stronger structurally. Mesh corsets wear down quickly. Moderate
Orchard Corset CS-426 Yes 30-day exchange/return.
1-year guarantee has been revoked as of 2014.
Responsive customer service.
Popped steel bones reported. Opt for all-cotton fashion fabric; stronger structurally. Curvy
Restyle “Wide Hip” underbust Yes but Train at own risk 10-day exchange/return
Restyle tells me that the corset is suitable for rigorous daily use and comes with a 2-year guarantee.
*Updated* new stock now has waist tape. Some torn seams reported in old stock before waist tape was included. Very curvy
Snobz Corsets No 7-day exchange/return on non-custom items.
Unreliable customer service.
Single bones/ partial waist tape/ single-piece eyelets reported. Moderate
Timeless Trends cincher No 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
Very mild. Length may promote tummy pooch/muffin top.
Timeless Trends HOURGLASS cincher Yes 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
Curvy. However, length may promote tummy pooch/muffin top.
Timeless Trends standard underbust Perhaps 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
Some variability in sizing/ proportion. Mild to very mild – 2011 stock is curvier than 2013-2014 stock.
Timeless Trends HOURGLASS standard underbust Yes 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
Size 26″ hourglass corsets in the blue, emerald and burgundy have a slightly smaller ribcage. This has been corrected in the other styles. Curvy
Timeless Trends longline underbust Perhaps 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
If your hip spring is more than 16 inches, the side hip ties run the risk of splitting over time. Small ribcage; contains adjustable hip ties for curvy/very curvy hips.
Timeless Trends HOURGLASS longline underbust Yes 45-day exchange/return; lifetime manufacturing guarantee.
Responsive customer service.
Curvy. Contains adjustable hip ties for curvy/very curvy hips.
True Corset steel boned cinchers No 30-day return; 60-day exchange Single bones, weak/ popped grommets reported. Partial waist tape has been corrected; they now contain a full waist tape. Mild
True Corset waist training long cincher Perhaps 30-day return; 60-day exchange Mild
Vollers Corsets No 21-day exchange/return on non-custom items Single bones/ partial waist tape reported. Single-piece eyelets. Mild to very mild
What Katie Did Corsets (all underbusts) Yes 30-day exchange/return on non-custom items;
store credit given for custom items.
WKD recently revised their previous statement and now says that their corsets are suitable for training.
Eventual stretching at waist reported (satin pieces only). Mild (Gina) to moderate (Mae) to very curvy (Morticia, Baby and Vamp)



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  1. Corsettine

    Hey Lucy,
    Frist I’d like to thank you for this wonderful list. It helps a lot!! 🙂
    I was wondering whether you had any experience with retrofolie’s training corsets. Do you you think they actually withstand daily wear at a pretty high reduction? Also, she offers dupioni silk pieces as well as cotton ones… I love the silk look, but I am a bit concerned whether it is actually as durable as the cotton version (Stretching issues/wear). I would be so glad if you could give me some advise!
    Thank you so much, I simply adore this website! Keep up the good work!
    Love from Germany, Anna

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Anna, the ones with the cotton fashion fabric would be the best for training. The historical art corsets aren’t made for regular use only because the art is printed onto the fabric, and with a lot of wear the fabric will begin to ease and will distort the picture over time. For the silk corsets, theoretically if the strength fabric is good quality then it could be used for training, but dupioni can be delicate and it can easily pull, run (like a stocking would run if you catch something sharp on it), and water stain so it’s not the most hardy and resistant of fabrics for everyday wear. These are superficial flaws and wouldn’t affect the strength of the corset, but still the cotton fashion fabrics will look better for longer.

  2. Shygurl

    HI lucy I’m sort of interested in waist training but I’m afraid I won’t know what is the right style and measurements for me and I don’t wish to waste money. The reason I’m interested in it is because I don’t like my shape. I am very short 5″3 with D cup breasts but a very short torso and ribs that stick out too much. I am about 15-20 lbs overweight for my stature but I am naturally an inverted triangle shape so I have natural thin arms and legs. I gain weight in my stomach and breast mostly. Since my breasts are very large, I feel like my hips are too narrow and my waist lacks curve. It seems I could lose that excess fat in my stomach but I’ve been thinner before and its the same issue on a smaller scale, and besides I like being a little thicker because my legs will become chicken legs again if I lose weight. I would like to be thick like I am now but curvy. I do not like how wide my chest looks due to my breasts and large rib cage compared to my narrow hips. I feel I would benefit from emphasizing my waist so that I can add more curve to it and make my hips stand out more.

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hello – thanks for your comment. When wearing a corset, there is a visual contrast between the smallness of the waist and your natural hip, so it can give the illusion that your hips are wider and the effect of an hourglass silhouette. As an added benefit, you may find that your back is supported and the weight of your bust won’t be as much of an issue. Unfortunately, the corset won’t have an effect on the shape of your legs (some people claim that wearing a corset encourages the wearer to put on weight in other parts of the body, but I don’t believe this to be true). The corset modifies the appearance of the torso but your body will always be yours, if that makes any sense. If you’re not sure if you’d like to commit long term waist and rib training, I would go with one of the companies with an excellent return policy so you can try it out without feeling like you’re forced to make a huge investment.

  3. Stef

    Hi Lucy,

    Do you have a similar comparison chart for custom corsets?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Stef, no I don’t have a table for custom corsets, because a reputable maker should always be able to communicate with the client regarding what they are looking for (regarding waist training, daily wear, etc) and create a corset with this specific use in mind. They may use a higher quality strength fabric, use more bones, add a waist tape or sturdier grommets etc. If you are ordering from a custom maker, always develop a rapport with them and communicate clearly, so they understand what you want and you get a sense of whether they are knowledgeable and capable. 🙂

  4. Danielle

    You said the cotton orchard CS-201 would be okay but what about the satin? 🙂 Thanks

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Danielle, I tend to prefer the cotton corsets. In the past, the satin corsets had issues with the steel bones in the back grommets eventually wearing through the fabric and popping out of the channels. Since the cotton is thicker and hardier, this was less of an issue and the corsets seemed to last much longer. This is the primary reason why I recommend the cotton, but if you purchase the satin the shaping should still be the same, just be aware that there is a higher risk for structural issues down the road.

      1. Danielle

        Thank you so much, that really helped me make my decision 🙂

  5. dominique

    Hi Lucy,

    I was wondering how waist training works if you have a bigger arch in hour back and a bigger bum? The corset that I tried (granted it was a cheap one) dug into my button because it couldn’t accommodate my arch. Is that normal/to be expected? Would the morticia underbust by wkd work for me in this case (it has the silhouette I’m looking for)?

    Thank you!

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Dominique, I have a tutorial on how to curve the back steels of a corset to hug your lumbar curve and over the bum more comfortably. I find that the Morticia corset has quite stiff steels in the back so you would have to bend them to the amount that you prefer. To figure out if the Morticia corset will work for your overall measurements, head over to the lace base and try out the calculator for the Morticia style and size that you want to buy – then compare the ribcage and hip measurements to your own body measurements. 🙂

  6. Connie Stinson

    Hello Lucy, what would you recommend for a tall or long waist? I am over 5’9″ and need something for my long back. Any suggestions?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Connie, I have a whole gallery of longline corsets for people with a long torso! You can find them here. 🙂 Cheers!

  7. Karla

    Hi, im going to start to save up for a waist training corsets, the 2 main brands im looking at are isabella corsets and morganna femme couture, if i decide for the isabella one would be the petitte josephine in size 22 since its measurements match me perfectly but i dont want it with satin, they give you the choice of fashion fabric and inner lining so i was thinking well maybe i would buy the petitte josephine with coutil lining and cotton lining as the fashion fabric, it would cost me $245 but i thought this way the corset wont stretch out over time, do you know if the over time stretching happens also on these fabrics? Also morganna has listed in her etsy shop the MF1346, which is a training corsets, made with 3 layer and 2 of them are english coutil, she has it on size 22 ready to ship for $202 but the measurement 5 inch below the waist is 34-35 but my measurement is 32.25, do you know if it would be to wide for me?? Also on her site the training corsets custom made would cost me $320, which i dont think its that bad for a custom made..

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Karla,
      All corsets will stretch at least a little bit over time. According to Ann Grogan, satin coutil stretches the least; about 1/4 inch in a size 20″ corset she says. I’m not sure what kind of coutil Isabella uses in their corsets; fine-weave herringbone stretches a lot less than domestic (American) herringbone coutil which has quite a wide weave. But I think the cotton would likely be more breathable and may be more abrasion-resistant than the satin, both good things.
      I think if the MFC corset is 2-3 inches bigger than your hip measurement, it will probably flare on you and feel too big. Even my thickest jeans don’t fill out the space of 3 inches difference in the hip. I’ve heard consistently good things about their custom corsets.

  8. Lucia Livoti

    Hi, I was just wondering what your thoughts are with regards to the What Katie Did powermesh demi corset and its suitability for waist training? Thank you!

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Lucia, I normally don’t recommend the powermesh pieces for daily training. To use as shapewear is fine, but anything that has stretch to it will eventually stretch out and get larger over time, meaning that it will become less and less efficient at pulling you in. And anything that has elastic can eventually dry-rot (if you’ve ever had socks that “crackle” when you put them on, and the bands loosen and don’t hold the socks up anymore, you know what I mean).

  9. tulipfrills

    Hello Lucy, I have been following you for some time and have decided to bite the bullet and 1) waist train to lose weight and 2) waist train for the discipline and the resulting silhouette! I am excited and your list is a BIG help. You have given incredible information aiding first time purchases. Here is my first stumbling block: I am incredibly squishy and have a huge pooch. I have read that a spoon busk is very helpful in resolving the tummy issue but I have just stumbled on an article stating that a spoon busk is not recommended for tight lacing! Any opinions/advice?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hello Tulipfrills! A spoonbusk is fine for tightlacing; where did you read that it was not appropriate? The spoonbusk was made to do two things: to scoop under the lower tummy so that it didn’t fall out of the bottom of the corset (where needed), and to strengthen the waistline of the corset because they were commonly used in “Pretty Housemaid” corsets which were worn by the working class, so they were made to withstand a lot of bending or stress at the waistline. There’s only one OTR corset I know of that uses a spoon busk, and that’s the spoon busk Morticia corset by What Katie Did. However, if you order a custom corset then you can have the choice of getting a spoon busk upgrade. 🙂

  10. Nata

    Hi Lucy, You’ve mentioned here that Timeless Trends cinchers aren’t suitable for waist training. Is this true for their Hourglass cincher as well? (Dragon Hourglass Waist Cincher) Thank you!

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Nata! Thanks for reminding me that I need to update this list! Yes, if the measurements of the new hourglass silhouette cinchers from Timeless Trends are compatible with your body, then it can provide enough cinch in the waist (and be strong enough) to be suitable for daily wear or waist training. 🙂

  11. Anonymous

    Hi Lucy, I was eyeing Mystic City’s MCC36 and was wondering if this was suitable for waist training?


    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hello – I still need to update this page with the recent corsets I’ve reviewed! But if the measurements of the MCC36 works for you and you find it comfortable, sure you can train in it. When I tried it (borrowed from a friend) it seemed to be well constructed and would hold up to regular wear. But it’s important that it fits you well and you find it comfy!

  12. Christin

    I was wanting to start waist training to slim my waist. I do wear a neoprene belt while working out, but want something more breathable during work. I work in a hot room, do a lot of walking (on cement) and plenty of lifting. My load today was about 2,500+ pounds. I want the metal bracing to help support my back, but I get lost with 4 bars, 7 bars, 28 bars. Then I don’t want to buy something that I can’t breath in and pass out. Or get something I can’t move\bend in.
    Have any suggestions to what I could use?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Christin, for my corsets I prefer to have at least one steel bone for every 1-2 inches around the waist. So if I wear a size 24 corset and I plan to wear it on a daily basis, I prefer 24 bones – although if it’s a corset that I only wear for fashion once in awhile, I could probably get away with 12-14 bones instead. 4 bones or 7 bones is definitely not enough for any size corset. If you work in a hot area, you may feel more comfortable with a mesh corset at first – I organized mesh corsets from many different brands in a gallery over here. Apart from Contour Corsets (which is close to $800!), mesh corsets will not last as long as cotton twill or coutil corsets – but they will be more comfortable heat-wise and offer slightly more mobility in the waist.

  13. bluegreenpink

    Hi Lucy,
    Thanks so so much for the amazing amount of info on your website. I am just starting out and I am trying to decide between three orchard corsets. I have a 10-11 inch torso (as I have scoliosis so don’t have a beautiful long waist!). I have checked and corsets are safe for my condition.I am trying to decide between the orchard corsets cs426, the cs201 and the cs411 (all in cotton)- I just can’t decide! Do you have any advice? Do you know which would produce the biggest reduction the quickest? I am very straight up and down 🙁 and would love to one day have even a couple of inches reduced in my waist! I have chosen Orchards because I am in the UK and they are reasonably priced. I cant find any other good uk brands in my price range :/
    All the best 🙂

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hello! Orchard Corset is actually based in the US (Washington to be exact) rather than the UK. If you want to order from the UK, send me a direct email and I can let you know which OTR brands might work for you, or you can check the Corsetiere Map if you want something custom. If you still want to go for Orchard, in order to properly choose the most suitable corset for you, I’ll need your measurements. Alternatively Orchard Corset has their own sizing agents ready to help you choose a size based on your measurements as well. 🙂

  14. Emma

    Hi Lucy,
    You’ve done many video reviews on Vollers. With their new line of Waist Training Corsets, would you say that they are suitable for Waist Training?

    Thank You <3

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Emma, unfortunately I haven’t tried Vollers newer waist training corsets, so I’m not sure what they’re like! Sorry!

  15. Lisa

    this is a really good flo chart. This is what people want. Please bring it up todate please.
    This is fabulious.

  16. Christina

    It is my own fault for assuming, I’m sure a lot of other watchers assume the same, which specific definition of the word review you use when you title your YouTube videos. Your channel is very focused on serious long term waist training. I would believe you are the most watched and trusted personality on YouTube for waist training advice, obviously the reason I’m here. My question is why would you not inform your viewers whether you recommended a corset for waist training or not during a review? You cannot honestly believe that you should hold no responsibility when it comes to informing your viewers. I haven’t watched every single review, but I have watched some of the ones here, I have not yet heard you give a flat no like here only a stress to get custom made. You can delete this, people think I’m overreacting, whatever, disgusting as the rest.

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Christina, my channel and website are not solely focused around waist training. I also cover corset making, repair and alteration, tightlacing (which is different from waist training), corset related fashion, therapeutic use of corsets and health effects. The waist training craze has taken off in the last two years, but this doesn’t change the fact that many people consult my videos for many different reasons, even if it is centered around one common interest in a garment. But my corset reviews are designed to be objective and observational, and to also be as long-standing as possible in the event that company policies or even my own opinions change over time.

      For instance, from 2010 to 2014, What Katie Did said that their corsets were only for occasional tightlacing, but not appropriate for waist training. They’ve since changed their policies. Conversely, Orchard Corset used to offer a 1-year warranty on their corsets for waist training, and this has since been changed to more around 3-6 months. Some independent corsetieres make beautiful, comfortable corsets that would be more than suitable for training, but they have told me personally that they don’t want to cater to the waist training community and would rather focus on more ornate pieces for special events. 6-7 years ago, I might have thought that Corset Story sold corsets suitable for training just because they had a section on their site called “Waist Training corsets”. However as my own knowledge has improved, I know that one brand’s idea of a suitable waist training corset does not necessarily meet my personal requirements for waist training. I cannot legally stop a company from advertising it as such, though.

      So there are many factors that go into what makes a corset suitable for training, not only construction but also the policies of the company or brand, whether or not I agree with them (many of these factors are covered on this page, and will be expanded on in my upcoming book). Most people who have seen more than 3 corset reviews are able to recognize what’s involved in a quality piece, and judge for themselves whether they’re suitable for their own purposes. But I stress custom made for a reason – because it’s not only more comfortable than even the “closest fitting” OTR corset, but also the corsets tend to have better construction methods, contain higher quality materials and last longer over time, making it more economical even as a larger initial investment. Informing my viewers of this IS being responsible.

      Thank you for your comment, but I will not be changing the structure of my reviews to focus solely on waist training – this would not only make my reviews 20 minutes long to explain the reasons behind my verdict, but it would also only result in exclusion of a very large part of the corset community to cater to only one specific subgroup.

  17. Samantha Dermody

    Hello Lucy. In the past year or so I recently got involved with waist training and I’ve found your blogs and videos incredibly helpful and I thank you. I’m curious if maybe I overlooked something however. What waist training corset is best for people with short torsos. I have a 10.5 torso in length and and very busty so I find that longlines and sometimes standard underbust corsets are difficult to wear. Is there a reliable seller for quality corsets for a short torso woman?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Samantha, a torso length of 10.5 inches is actually quite normal. But if you’re looking for a corset that won’t lift up your bust, then maybe try these curvy cinchers.

  18. Jessica

    Hello lucy i was wondering if this corset is waist train friendly? I hope you can help me! 🙂

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Jessica, I haven’t tried that corset specifically, but it looks to be a similar construction as Orchard’s CS-301 waspie (except less expensive), which I generally wouldn’t recommend for training for the reasons I outlined above.

  19. Naomi

    Hey Lucy! I’ve been lurking your blog and youtube channel for some time now, and finally started waist training. I bought a corset from alt noir and was wondering what your opinion on them is? I don’t think I’ve seen you review it yet (or maybe I’m blind).

    I know that to waist train, you want a sturdy/strong material. I’m planning on investing in the CS-426 short once I’m done with school as a pat on the back, but I saw they have a really pretty lilac in satin. I’m assuming in the spreadsheet when you’re saying the 426 is waist training friendly, you’re talking about in cotton, right? I’m also thinking that satin is going to be somewhat easier to break-in, therefore won’t stand up to the wear-and-tear of waist training.

    Thanks so much!

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Naomi, unfortunately I haven’t tried Alt Noir corsets, so I don’t know what the construction is like! At first glance they look to be a distributor for Corset Deal, but I could be wrong. If they are Corset Deal, I have reviewed those in the past and they’re not the best for waist training.
      I would personally go for the cotton for waist training, mostly because the cotton pieces don’t have the same tendency for the back steels to wear a hole through the fabric the way that the satin ones are prone to.

  20. Anonymous

    In the guided galleries under modern slim it mentions Corset Connection, but I don’t see it here. Can they be used to waist train? Also, are there any extreme hourglass OTR corsets that can be used to waist train with?

    1. Boo Bobobob

      Hi Anon, the corsets in this table are only those that I have personally tried and tested. Since I haven’t reviewed the Corset Connection budget corsets, they’re not yet included. But coincidentally, I have a corset from them currently lost in the mail. Once it finally reaches me, I’ll be able to test the construction and update the page on whether they’re suitable for training.

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